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Retirement due to ill health Options
flw93
#21 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2011 8:37:55 PM Quote
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Hi

Been in for my first day today. Went in at 9 as agreed and just stood, my Head of Faculty walked past and I said to her "i am not sure where to go" she shrugged and replied "well that's the problem isnt it" and walked away. I had that feeling that I was in the way and under everyones feet. Found a place in the office to work and got through the 3 hours. Managed to print off all the forms for retirement due to ill health. I was shattered when I got home, both mentally and physically so I know I cant go on like this. Really fed up.

LouiseSad
Rose-B
#22 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2011 9:18:15 PM Quote
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Oh Louise

Poor you. You didn't exactly get a welcome back did you ?

Continue though as arranged things may get easier.

Thinking of you
Sheila-R
#23 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2011 9:38:17 PM Quote
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Oh Louise , so sorry you got such a nasty ignorant reception, it certainly can't help you to feel welcome nor do anything for the stress you are under. I would make a note of it and log it.
All that needed to be said was Hi Louise, great to see you back, anything we can do.
I really hope next time in will be better for you.
Best wishes
Sheila
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#24 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2011 10:52:38 PM Quote
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Hi Louise
sorry to hear your return to work was not a pleasent experience your head of faculty sounds like a nasty piece of work hope things improve for you
Maria_R
#25 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2011 9:49:34 PM Quote
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Hi Louise

Sorry that you got such an unfriendly reception . I know I shouldn't make comments when I don't know the situation, but please make a note of it- and if it recurs log it with someone senior. (sorry- bossy teacher hat here!). My dept collegue is very unsupportive and at times downright unpleasant. She knows I struggle yet ignores my requests to replace furniture and equipment if she moves it. Many a time I have to do it before I can use the room!However- she really excelled herself last year. I had to go into school the day after my dad's funeral to rehearse my GCSE drama class for their imminent exam because she refused point blank to do it for me (or them). It hurts, but I'm gradually learning to rise above it.

Hang in there- you deserve better!!!

Hope you enjoy a restful weekend and that things get better next week.

Take care

Maria x
flw93
#26 Posted : Thursday, March 24, 2011 6:46:35 PM Quote
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Hi everyone

Half way through my phased return and am really struggling. I am only going in three mornings a week, Monday, Tuesday and Thursday, and dont begin to teach limited classes for another week. I am constantly tired and am starting to have pain in my elbows and wrists as well as my feet knees and hips. I have to say though, my union rep has been fantastic, she is so supportive. I think I am going to go down the retirement due to ill health route though. I need confirmation from my consultant saying that the RA will get progressively worse and will not get better. Not sure if I will be entitled to claim any money from anywhere though. Does anyone have any ideas?

Louise

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RichC
#27 Posted : Thursday, March 24, 2011 7:51:42 PM Quote
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Hi Louise ,
sorry that you health is impeding the phased return.

The links i posted above should just about cover most of the things you can claim , however i would say it may be preferable to let them retire you and to claim SSP (if your pay scheme has run out)

Again you would need advice on whether you can claim monies for early retirement (see TPAS link in previous post).
If you do receive an early pension then any amount over about £85 will affect payments of ESA (contribution based) (Figure correct as of April 2010) In that your ESA will be reduced by half of the amount above £85.

Ideally it would be an idea to talk to an advice agency face to face about your options etc , as there are so many variables and what if's .. but you do need to know all your options .

Have a look at the ESA guide from the Winter Newsletter .. also HERE

With ESA it is going to be harder to get found unfit from work as from the 28th March 2010, and there are plans to make it Means tested as from April 2011 (ie your savings and partners income will be taken into account) .

Obvious other things include "Needs Assessments " ( adaptations to your home to help you ) arranged by your Local Authority , DLA etc .

You really do need to talk this through ..
Sorry i cannot be of more help at the moment , as it depends on various factors including whether it is agreed you will get a pension now or not)

Rich :)

"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."
jaed
#28 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2011 3:37:27 PM Quote
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Hi, only just picked up this thread. Sorry you are having such a bad time.
I had to apply for ill health retirement a few years ago as my RA was making my teaching career impossible. Teaching is so very hard, even for the young and the fit these days. I had several long periods off sick before I realised I needed to leave.
Anyway, this is what I did to get retirement.

I started with the attitude that "I wanted to continue but my employers had to help me". (The union gave me these ideas from previous cases.)
I got full pay for reduced hours thanks to my employer's sympathy and also a government fund called Access to Work.
I got moved to an accessible teaching area, no stairs, etc.
I was provided with a supportive chair, a lap top, and a trolley to carry all my books, folders, etc.
So I was able to carry on a while longer.

Next, I simultaneously applied for ill health retirement, and asked to work only part time.
I spent some time with Human Resources staff who showed me the very lengthy forms they have to fill in, in which they have to say what steps they have taken already to keep me in work. And of course, by then, they had tried all sorts (as listed above) so they had enough evidence to support my application.

Meanwhile I spoke to my consultant who supported me. And my notes were accessed to add the necessary evidence of my disease.

And within a couple of months I got my farewell letter from the Secretary of State for Education, plus my (enhanced) pension. I must admit it was all very upsetting at the time, having to admit to myself I couldn't do the job any more. But in the years since I have had no regrets. My health is so very very much better now that I can pace myself and give my attention to me instead of those little devils in those classrooms!

Good luck!


flw93
#29 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2011 10:03:48 PM Quote
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Hi

Thanks so much for your experiences. They have made me seem so much more positive. I have pretty much decided to retire now as I am on my second week of the phased return and am absolutely shattered. I think it is the fatigue which creates so many problems for me, coupled with my feet!!

Am waiting until the phased return is over then will go on to the sick again. That way I can apply for ill health retirement and hopefully with my unions support, I will be successful. Any other ideas or experiences would be welcomed.

Louise
Maria_R
#30 Posted : Friday, April 01, 2011 6:30:36 PM Quote
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Hi

This is now making me think about my own situation. Last week the head called me into his office to ask if I wanted to consider cutting my hours further after he noticed I'd missed 2 parents evenings (which, I pointed out were NOT RA related but something else.)when I pressed him about it the cheekyb***** said he was needing to make cutbacks and save money!! He'd still have to employ someone to teach the lessons though. I made it quite clear that I was not impressed with his presumptious attitude but I would think about it, and get back to him later.
I do find it hard going at times although I seldom take time off which results in me being shattered all weekend. At the moment I work 4 days with Weds off which is ust about manageable. I've decided that I'm going to step down as Head of Dept and see how things go. I still think I'm maybe being stubborn and the only loser will be me but it's so hard to let go and accept it.

hope all gets sorted for you soon

Maria x
flw93
#31 Posted : Friday, April 01, 2011 9:43:29 PM Quote
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Hi Maria

I know what you mean, it is a hard job and you need to be on top form to be fair to the kids. I am in pain and I am struggling with fatigue and so I have been honest with the head. I am not reliable any more and i suppose that makes me a liability to the school. I have been lucky as my head is very very supportive, and i have a very supportive HR dept and union rep. I have been advised not to go part time or give up my head of department post as this will affect my final pension, so be careful what you do. I am hoping to get retirement due to ill health but it is hard to get. I have got to finish my phased return to work and then go on the sick again. Its very hard on the school while this takes place. Hope all ok with you> if you are not sure what to do, speak to your union rep.

Louise
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